It's hard to think of an event more sad than the death of Amy Meyer White, killed by her estranged husband out on county road 100 South outside of Bluffton. Accidents are one thing, but murder... double murder since she was pregnant.... is another.
Tyler White played varsity basketball for Bluffton on the 1999-2000 team. Amy (Meyer) White played for South Adams, scoring over 1,000 points in her career and going on to play in college and coach, God rest her soul.
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79 comments:
Your innocent until proven quilty. This is a hard time for both families, friends, etc. It's a tragic event. I wish it had never happened. I support both families and will continue to throughout this time.
Hey, anonymous it is hard to be innocent when you confessed to something you have done. The last time I looked being guilty, and confessing to what you have done are completly different. Amy, rest in peace!
It doesn't matter if he is found guilty or not, she didn't deserve to die. And he didn't have a right to play God. Rest in Peace, Amy. Her family and son are in my thoughts and prayers.
I don't like this anymore than you do. I know Tyler admited to being the shooter. That is clear. What was not clear was the reason. She did not deserve to die. This is absolutley horiable and please support both familes. Nobody asked for this. Below is a news artical.
Wells husband says gun pulled on him
Holly AbramsThe Journal GazetteAdvertisement
A Bluffton man charged in the shooting death of his wife told police she pointed a gun at him first during an argument over visitation with their son.
Tyler White appeared Wednesday in Wells Circuit Court, where a not guilty plea was entered on his behalf. White, 27, is formally charged with murder and was being held without bail in the Wells County Jail.
Deputies were called just after 9 a.m. Tuesday to 649 E. County Road 100 S. in Bluffton. Police found Amy White, 28, lying on the floor of the home’s two-car garage, suffering from two gunshot wounds to her chest.
She was taken by ambulance to Bluffton Regional Medical Center, where she died about an hour later.
Amy White had come to her in-law’s home to pick up her toddler son, Max. When Tyler White asked for 30 more minutes to visit with the boy, Amy White refused, Tyler White told detectives in a deputy’s report. His wife pointed a gun at him as the couple argued over who could have their son longer for a visit, according to the report.
Tyler White got down on his knees in the garage and told his wife to put the gun down, he told detectives. He then took a gun from the waistband of his pants and fired it at his wife, he said.
When deputies arrived, they found two handguns on the garage floor and Tyler White kneeling over his wife. Their 16 1/2 -month-old son was nearby, according to the report.
Wells County Coroner Kent Gilbert said an autopsy revealed Amy White had been shot to death. But Gilbert declined to comment Wednesday on a manner of death until he had reviewed the autopsy findings further. Her death has not yet been ruled a homicide.
Wells County Sheriff Robert Frantz said the couple had been going through a divorce.
A 1999 graduate of South Adams High School, Amy White, whose maiden name was Meyer, had been an assistant coach for the girls softball team in 2002 and a junior varsity softball coach in 2003 and 2004, said South Adams Schools Superintendent Cathy Egolf. Most recently, Amy White had been assistant cross country coach at the high school.
She was also an assistant women’s basketball coach at the University of Saint Francis.
After high school, Amy Meyer played basketball at Indiana University-Purdue University Fort Wayne, followed by Saint Francis.
A trial date for Tyler White has been set for April.
habrams@jg.net
Indeed, both families and the little child especially need our prayers and support. However unlikely the explanation seems, it will be for a jury to decide.
YEE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE...PEOPLE WHO DONOT KNOW THE COUPLE OR CIRCUSTANCES OF THE SITUATION NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE CASTING JUDGEMENT.. EMPATHY FOR ALL INVOLVED NEEDS TO HAPPEN...IT IS A SAD TIME FOR ALL
The truth will come out and Tyler will get what he deserves. Anyone that believes his story must be a complete IDIOT! Self defense...ha! Why would he shoot her twice in the chest and then her cell phone if it was self defense....hmmmm I wonder. Because he has been planning this for a long long time. And he just happened to have a gun on him that morning while playing with his son. He is crazy and in my eyes his parents and the rest of his family are guilty too. Max should never be able to see his Dad or anyone from his family for that matter ever again - let alone have custody. Poor Max. He is going to grow up without his Mommy whom he loved so dearly. Prayers go out to little Max and Amy's family. We love you Amy! We'll see you again someday. Rest in Peace.
I don't like what you said but your entitled to your opionion. The white family don't deserve your hatred. The only person you can say anything to would be towards the son who is in jail. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. God Rest Amy and may peace come to this matter. As for max, may he be taken care of the best he can without people fighting over him and making everything more difficult.
It bothers me that people can be so shallow to make excuses for such a senseless death... Get a total grip! I am a christian and know God is to judge.
BUT experiencing with my own eyes the way Amy was treated by Tyler, you would feel foolish and down right ashamed for your comments below. I have a VERY hard time believing it was an act of self defense.
Yes, I will pray for god to save his soul, but NO I will not have sympathy for him nor his family. There was never sympathy for Amy while terrible remarks were made by Tyler.
Rest in peace Amy! We love you
Why Tyler White has no defence.
He shot the cel phone and deleted the messages
Verizon has all the Horrible messages he sent her.
I have a recording of the sheriff saying Tyler gave two verions of what happened. NO CREDIBILITY
He said he was on his knees begging which means in a panic he would have pulled the gun and shot her from that angle but the holes will show different.
He shot her twice
Why was he packing a gun ???
He did it in the garage because he didn't want to mess up the house.
When the jury learns who Amy Meyer really is they will NEVER believe that Amy Meyer would ever even think about shooting anyone for any reason. The trial is just a waist of time...Tyler is finished.
I have also witnessed how Tyler treated Amy...he was emotionally, verbally and probably physically abusive towards her and his family knew it too and they did nothing. The names and things Tyler & his family said to her were just horrific. And any normal human being that did KNOW how he treated her would be ASHAMED if they believed Tyler's story for even a second.
Amy had every right to move on and find someone that treated her like a human being. Why wouldnt you if you were emotiontally, verbally and probably physically abused by your husband. huh? This is just disgusting that people could even believe Tyler's story - especially if you knew Amy. Tyler is a coward and I believe he had this all planned out. So before you go defending him - if you didnt know how he treated her - keep your opinions to yourself. Tyler obviously didnt think about his son and what this is going to do to him...or maybe he did but didnt care. He doesnt deserve to see his son's face again and I'm praying Max will end up with Amy's family where he belongs.
This past year Amy was the happiest she has ever been in her life and I'm just glad she got to experience love the way it should have been. Rest in Peace AMY!!! We love you always and we'll see you again someday!
Message removed because I found it offensive. Sorry if that makes anyone unhappy, but let's not speak ill of those who can no longer defend themselves.
Here is what I see - Tyler is a very disturbed individual. His verbal abuse towards Amy has been going on a very long time. Unfortunately, the White family turned a blind eye to his rage and inappropriate behavior. No one wants to believe their child is going downhill or is capable of a horrendous act. But ultimately those closest to him should have seen the signs. The White family would like to blame this on Amy and say that she provoked him by leaving the marriage. Those closest to Amy know that she wanted that marriage to work in the beginning. But Tyler's verbal abuse and ongoing mistreatment was not producing a healthy or happy marriage. Amy tried to end the marriage quickly and swiftly but Tyler insisted on making her life hell - delaying, delaying, delaying. He was not doing this out of love - not an ounce. He was doing it out of hatred and a desire for revenge. His family and friends know this. Even church people - those professing to be Christians - would rather support Tyler's verbal abuse and behavior towards Amy as they couldn't see past her being with another man. How does that make any sense at all? What hypocrisy! Her current relationship was loving and healthy - and would have been so much better for Max to witness as he grows up as opposed to the vile names Tyler called Amy every single time he was in her presence (and also in the presence of Max). Christian community - are we so out of touch that we would rather see a marriage remain intact despite ongoing abuse? We need to open our eyes! People in abusive relationships NEED TO GET OUT! I understand that the White family and their supporters must be grieving the loss of the son/friend they thought they knew - but where is their compassion for the Meyer family? It's unspeakable that they have not given their condolences - it is widely known that they haven't. In regard to the crime itself, Tyler's side of the story is so far fetched it's unbelievable. Those who knew Amy know she was hurt and annoyed by Tyler's behavior, BUT SHE WAS NOT AFRAID FOR HER LIFE. His "she pulled a gun on me" theory is seriously flawed. Her motive wasn't there - but his motive was clear. Crystal clear. What a tragedy in all respects...
DITTO on the most recent comment! You couldnt have said it any better! Tyler was HORRIBLE to Amy...no wonder she left him...and he didnt love her....he just wanted to win. He didnt believe in divorce but murder was okay huh? DISGUSTING!! It's just wrong. Tyler, his family and his church. They are all wrong.
I agree....Tyler is one disturbed individual - hope he enjoys prison where he belongs and also never seeing his son. He had this planned which will soon come out - which will then be premeditated which will then result in more prison time.
Everyone wants to pretty up the story and make Amy look like an innocent queen. While Amy can't defend herself, neither can Tyler. While there is no excuse for what Tyler did, everyone should be truthful. Tyler may have been verbally abusive, but wouldn't most be if they found out their spouse was cheating, not to mention pregnant living w another man. Furthermore, reports say that she was a great mother, but Max was with Tyler's brother ans sister-in-law a lot of the time. Let's not forget DUI'S and a near death accident caused by her. None of these are excuses for what happened, but the whole story should be told. Its a real tradegy, both were troubled and needed help and no one seen it or they ignored it. The justice system will be fair ad God will be the judge for no sin is different from the other!
Don't even start with the whole "Tyler can't defend himself." He's still here--he's still living. Amy is the one that is no longer here to tell her story because he took her life. He brutally shot her and left his son to live the rest of his life with that memory and no parents. Don't even compare Amy's mistakes with Tyler's. Murder. That says it all. God will judge the wicked. Amy was the best mom ever, and Max spent as much time with her as she possibly could. The only reason he was with his father was because Amy tried to do the right thing. She would have been given full custody, unfortunately the coward murdered her before she could have her day in court. Poor little Maxy never should have been left alone with that monster. Amy should have pushed for supervised visitation only. I mean, what kind of father shaves his 1-year old's head bald to the scalp just to get back at his mother? That is horrible. I can't believe Tyler's family could allow things like that to happen. I just pray that justice is served and Max grows up with Amy's family who loves him unconditionally.
OMG are you kidding me? You are saying Tyler had a right to be verbally & probablly phsically abusive because Amy left him? HE WAS abusive before Amy left him. I witnessed it along with a lot of other people - including his family. That is why SHE LEFT HIM. Amy was getting away from the monster and found happiness with another man. They have been LEGALLY separated for a year and half!!! She had every right to find happiness and move on with her life. She didnt want to wait because she was in LOVE. They were just waiting to go to court in April for the divorce to be final. Tyler didnt love her anyway. You dont love someone when you treat them the way he treated her. He just wanted revenge. He is a sick individual. He used his son Max in a very demented way to get back at Amy and SOMETHING should have been done when he shaved his son's head down to the scalp! That is child abuse and if that's not a clue of his demented acts I dont know what is!!!!
And the only reason MAX was ever at his brother's house was because TYLER lived at his BROTHER's house for a LONG TIME. Amy was trying to do the right thing and let Max be a part of his father's life. God knows she was trying to do the right thing.
Tyler is the one who didnt want MAX to begin with...when Amy was pregnant he told MULTIPLE people he didnt want the baby- in front of Amy. What husband would say that about their child and in front of their wife and wife's friends!
Does anyone know why Tyler got fired from his job the day before he committed the murder?
Tyler got fired from his job for insurance fraud. That same week he was also dropped by his attorney for the custody case. Amy had many recordings of conversations with Tyler that documented his continued verbal abuse even after the marriage ended. Her lawyer also subpoenaed Verizon to retrieve the vile text messages he believed he had deleted. It is likely that Amy would have received full custody of Max. I have no idea why his family turned a blind eye to the psychotic tendancies of Tyler. Clearly, a path of destructive behavior had been established. Why didn't they get him help instead of fueling his rage, as Tyler's father did by joining in on the Amy-bashing.Their negligence proved fatal for poor Amy. The jurors will see, through Tyler's actions and other documentation, that there was obviously motive for him to commit MURDER. His self defense claims are absolutely ridiculous. While Amy was not perfect, no one is, there is no excuse, NO MATTER WHAT SHE DID, for the brutal manner in which he killed her. Tyler White should never see the outside of a prison as long as he lives.
I can't believe the cruel and inconsiderate comments posted above regarding Amy. Bringing up Amy's past, which you apparently know very little about, is disgraceful. Tyler will be the one to stand trial...not Amy! Those of us who knew Amy well and for many years, knew her as a sweet and caring person who loved her family, friends, and especially her son Max. Her life was tragically taken away too soon. Amy was not given a choice. Tyler callously took her life as though it meant nothing. And now Max will grow up without his mommy. He was not given a choice either. But Tyler had a choice...he chose to shoot and kill Amy and leave his son motherless. However, his unbelievable "story" surrounding the events of that morning is just that..a story. The truth will come out and justice will be served. The bigger tragedy in all of this is that it did not have to happen. Tyler's downward spiral began months ago and no one in his family got him the help he so desperately needed. The signs were all there...and ignored time and time again. Maybe if he had received some professional counseling, Amy would still be here with us and we would not be pouring out our grieve through this blog. The so-called Christian community in which this horrible tragedy occurred should be ashamed for being so judgemental. Divorce is wrong, but murder is justifiable? We should stand by Tyler because Amy was wrong for removing herself from an abustive relationship? Amy deserved to know true love and happiness, which she had finally found after years of abuse at the hand of Tyler. It takes a brave person to get out of that situation, and Amy was brave....for herself and for Max. She just wanted the best possible life for him. Let's talk about the true victim here. Amy was a victim of domestic violence...like so many other women out there. It's so tragic that it came to this. I pray daily for Amy's family, friends, and also for Tyler's family...that they may realize that enough damage has been done. I also pray for Tyler..that he may feel the full magnitude of what he has done, speak the truth, and allow healing to begin. In the name of revenge and winning, Tyler has caused tremendous suffering and unspeakable pain and grief for the Meyer family. So, to his family...please let go of "winning" and put an end to the bitterness. Enough is enough. Max should be where he belongs...with the Meyer family. That is all they have left of Amy...except for wonderful memories. Peace be with all involved in this tradegy and may somehow, grace be granted.
Shattered
He had no clothes to tear for he was God,
but his reflection had defied The Law.
Instead, he shattered the mirror of Man
and threw the pieces all across the earth.
His image remains, it waxes and wanes
as people either love, or turn to hate.
God sees Himself in fragments here and there:
where people come together in His name,
when lovers dedicate their lives to Him
and replicate creation through their love,
when children's eyes are opened to His world . . .
He sees his image glow in each of these
and breathes his Spirit on the coals of them
with Grace and Hope that everyone will catch
and burn until the mirror grows intact.
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As a Catholic, I cannot agree that all sins are the same in the eyes of God... venial sin is not the same as mortal sin. In the end, however, the courtroom isn't a Church and the judge and jury are not God -- sin, moral or otherwise, isn't the issue anymore.
I cant believe the bs story Tyler is telling! Are you kidding me? It is such a tragedy how he took Amy's life and for his son to be without a mommy.
Own up to what you did Tyler. For having this so planned out you sure did make a lot of mistakes. Soon the small community will know the truth.
Anyone that can support him or believes him needs help too.
I will continue to pray for Max and Amy's family and that Max ends up where he belongs...with Amy's side.
Let's be honest about a few things. Amy didn't just leave Tyler for another man. She tried working things out, she tried counseling. The verbal abuse and mistreatment continued. To the poster who said that "Tyler may have been verbally abusive, but wouldn't most be if they found out their spouse was cheating". The answer is - NO - it is NOT OK to be verbally abusive in any situation. Look up the definition of verbal abuse. It's way beyond having an occasional argument or disagreement. And it ceases to be "cheating" when one is legally separated and desperately trying to make a divorce final. In regard to Amy's past mistakes, she was not yet a Mom when those choices were made. She was on a path to living a full, happy life. It's interesting to read the posting "God will be the judge for no sin is different from the other!". It's very convenient to say that now - when Tyler has been charged with murder. When Amy wanted out of her marriage, people thought that "sin" was much greater than other sin - like a husband constantly verbally abusing and trying to beat down his wife. It is sad there is so much hypocrisy out there. Because of that hypocrisy, Amy is not with us today. For those of you who are continuing to defend Tyler - you are helping the cycle of abuse to continue. Tyler needs to tell the truth about what happened, be accountable for his actions and spare the Meyer family any further pain. Friends and family can support Tyler as a person, but they need to make him accountable and stop finding ways to blame Amy, the victim. Hasn't Tyler's family and defenders turned a blind eye long enough? If committing murder is not enough to wake people up to the deep, dark issues Tyler has within him, what will it take?
To the person supporting Tyler that said why wouldnt someone be abusive when they found out their wife was living with another man and was pregnant - I have news for you but being abusive is wrong in ANY case and Amy was a victim of domestic violence. AND the guy she was living with was HER BOYFRIEND whom she was in LOVE WITH. She had EVERY right to go live with him. She was legally separated from Tyler. Tyler had a girlfriend. There is no excuse for Tyler's behavior. He couldn't just move on with his life and take it like a "man" No - he had to get "revenge" and "win" - it's just sick, disgusting, wrong and for anyone to support him is in the same category. Tyler didn't love Amy - she was part of a game to him. Think long and hard about it next time you go defending him.
To support the person that left the comment about Amy trying to work things out in her marriage in the beginning - that is so true. She went to counseling many many times. She just didn't leave Tyler for another man. Obviously she couldnt take the ABUSE from Tyler anymore....Amy was brave and stood up fore herself like more woman should. IF any good can come out of this - maybe it can SAVE a life of another woman who is in an abusive relationship. If you are reading this - you can get out. Be brave like Amy was.
Amy wanted to be with another man. If sleeping with another man is a working on her marriage then yes she did a GREAT job of working on her marriage. And yes, when Amy was attending the counseling sessions she was sleeping with another man. Check your facts.
Also a "good" mother would beastfeed her child and choose NOT to drink so she could do so.
Child abuse because Tyler cut his hair? You're more ignorant than you choose to believe. Until you see child abuse, you're plain stupid in that area.
Also don't look so pathetic when you write about areas you do not know about. AKA: Yes, AMY did have 2 DUI's and almost killed her best friend because of it. That best friend also wore an upper body brace because of Amy's actions. Ask the friend if you don't believe this.
Tyler is innocent until proven guilty. That is the beauty of our legal system. You all can continue judging him and hating him but remember that.
What kind of world would this be if everyone was a criminal just because they had gotten a DUI or left a bad marriage. Your defending a murderer, no matter if he is convicted or not. I hope you can live with yourself. THINK OF MAX for gods sake and get off your high horse that Tyler was the victim here. The words I saw he called her....he should be put away for abuse. If she was such a bad person because of her DUI, why did he still marry her, huh, funny, must not have been a big deal until HE murdered her, now you are scrounging up anything you can to make her the bad guy. Good luck.....normal people know who the victim is. Amy was a awesome mother and friend....i envy her for trying to happy especially for MAX.
You are missing the point. Are you making excuses for Tyler murdering Amy? You are as sick as him.
And Tyler shaving his son's head down to the scalp was one thing - but the REASON he did it was another and that is demented. He used his son to get back at Amy. Poor Max.
Tyler did not love Amy - it was a game to him. That's why he ended the game in cold blooded murder & had it planned. If you can't see this then maybe you should check your facts.
Further more......NICE that your "innocent" man had his son right there during all of this too....I consider that CHILD ABUSE! A man that cares about his child......I THINK NOT
Your BEAUTY of the legal system will end when this isn't in Wells County, where everyone is brain washed. It helps when you have it in with the judge, isn't that the real beauty.
To the person defending Tyler... Are you saying that anyone that does not breastfeed or has gotten a DUI - should be murdered? WOW. Or are you too blind & evil yourself that you see nothing wrong with what Tyler did. We are talking about first degree murder here. Not DUI's or breastfeeding. Are you kidding me? I will say it again. We are talking about premeditated cold blooded murder & I hope you can live with yourself knowing that you are supporting a murderer. Tyler needs to own up to what he did but doubt he ever will because he is a coward. Wheres the remorse? I see none. If it was self defense wouldn't Tyler show at least some remorse. He was smiling in his mug shot. Think of all the innocent people that have been affected by Tyler's sick revenge plan.
Amy's past has no relevance to why Tyler did what he did. There is no EXCUSE so if that's all the defense you have - you are in for a rude awakening.
AND if Tyler loved his son at all he NEVER would have put him through this. Eventually Max will know what his Dad did and Tyler will have to live with that for the rest of his life....in prison where he belongs and his son knowing he murdered his mommy.
WOMEN who are in abusive relationships - if you are reading this - please learn from this - GET OUT and surround yourself with good people who lift you up, not put you down & degrade you. There are people out there in the same situation and there's support groups you can attend to also help you get out. Be BRAVE and take a stand like Amy was trying to do. There should be NO tolerance for domestic violence & abusive relationships. Maybe this can save a life.
To the supporter of Tyler, how small of you to continue to berate Amy when she is no longer here to defend herself. The past is just that...the past and it is irrelevant to what has currently transpired. You continue to speak of things you know nothing about...or maybe the distorted truth you have heard from Tyler. To equate not breastfeeding with not being a good mother is absurdity! I guess that over 50% of all mothers out there are bad in your asinine opinion. But since everyone is entitled to their opinion, let me give you mine. It is apparent that Tyler has surrounded himself with family and friends who have the same distorted view of reality as he does.
You obviously don't know anything about the accident to which you keep referring, so I would keep your comments to yourself. Check YOUR facts! You say to ask her best friend? Well, her best friend loved Amy as she does her family and NEVER blamed her for what happened. Neither did anyone in her family...and since I am part of that family, I should know. We all loved Amy and NEVER would have had any bad feelings toward her as we try to live our life with grace and compassion. It was an ACCIDENT! What Tyler did was NOT an accident...it was calculated, cold-blooded and premeditated MURDER! The truth WILL come out. Anyone who knew Amy knows that she did NOT have a gun that day...so let's think about who planted it at the scene. I think we all know the answer to that. There WILL be justice for Amy!
And I must say that I'm tired of all of the anonimity. So I choose to display my name because I am not ashamed of my postings as perhaps you are as you should be.
Cami,
So sorry for your loss. I hope this entry has not made things worse for you or your family. Please let me know if you want any or all of it removed.
- Dan
Dan...it's fine. No need to remove posts or edit comments...even if they are as insane as some of the recent posts...unless they are vulgar, of course. This should be a forum for all to respond. The more awareness brought to Amy's situation, the better! Maybe this can help another victim of domestic violence get out before it's too late. NO ONE should have to endure what Amy did.
Tyler supporter...You want to ask Amy's best friend about the accident...well here I am. I NEVER once blamed Amy for the accident...it was just that - an ACCIDENT. She stood by me from day one as I did to her. I loved her so much and that's why we remained best friends. She was family to me (and also to my family) and although I don't know you because you won't say your name -I'm pretty sure you have NO idea how it feels to have your best friend murdered. So before you go making judgements...why don't YOU get your facts straight.
Amy was a GREAT mother and I witnessed it. She loved Max more than anything and now he's going to grow up without his mommy. What a tragedy this is and for you to defend a cold blooded murderer puts you in the same category.
Your exactly right Amy did want to be with another man, ONE THAT LOVED HER UNCONDITIONALLY. Not tried to control her and belittle her.
So sorry for your loss, Stef. It's so rare to find good friends and so sad to one in such a sudden, violent, senseless way.
Marriage should be = mutual love, respect, forgiveness. Tyler = verbal abuse from the beginning of dating all the way through the marriage.
Breastfeeding versus bottle feeding = both are done by "good" mothers. What an ignorant statement to declare otherwise. Talk to any doctor - they'll tell you the same.
A "good" parent = selfless, unconditional love, puts child's needs ahead of their own.
Tyler = shaved Max's head to the scalp into a nasty mohawk when Amy picked up Max so he could be in her sister's wedding pictures - he did this on the day of the wedding, hours before the pictures were to be taken. Max looked like a cancer victim. To the poster who defended this action - I hope you never parent a child if you cannot see how demented and sick this is. Using a child to hurt or get back at someone = child abuse.
A parent's past mistakes BEFORE having a child = we've all made them and we learn from them, as Amy did. We rise to the occasion of parenting - we change because we want to do the best for our child - we're seeing their needs ahead of ours.
A parent's present deliberate actions AFTER having a child - murdering their child's mother, stealing at work = a disturbed, narcissistic person - the worst example of a father I can possibly name.
Innocent before proven guilty = I think this statement is reserved for someone who has not admitted to murdering in cold blood.
"Judging and hating Tyler" - not so. Believe me - the majority of Amy's supporters only want to shed light on the domestic violence she endured, how she was brave for herself and her son to get out, how she fell in love and found a life that was stable and positive for Max and how she was taken from this life at the hand's of Tyler. And this is the story we will continue to tell until Tyler admits the full extent of what he's done.
Dan, thanks for your sympathy. I am so glad you created this forum. Amy has no voice now. It was taken from her so we need to be her voice...and this is a good start. This is a time for Amy's loved ones to speak out. Thanks again Dan.
The Narcissist knows that he is a con artist, a fraud, an elaborate hoax, a script, hollow and really non-existent. The narcissist hates love - however and wherever it is manifested. Thus, for instance, when his spouse demonstrates her love to her child, he wishes them all dead. Nothing less than a horrible, tortuous death. He is so envious of his spouse that he wishes she never existed. Being a tad paranoid, he also nurtures the growing conviction that she is doing it ON PURPOSE, to remind him how miserable he is, how deficient, how deprived and discriminated against. He regards her interaction with their child to be a provocation, and assault on his emotional balance. Seething envy, boiling rage, and violent thoughts is the flammable concoction that floods the narcissist's brain whenever he sees other people happy.
To think this makes him grand, the narcissist must deliberately think absurdly, like a little child thinks. Indeed, a narcissist is, above all, an adult who obdurately refuses to stop thinking like a pre-school age child. WHY? In order that he can delude himself with all this play-acting.
HOW DOES A NARCISSIST WHO IS DIVORCING HIS WIFE FEEL WHEN SHE STARTS DATING BEFORE THE DIVORCE IS FINAL??
Dating before the divorce is final, as long as you have filed and you are living apart, is legal and okay. However, it is BEST to remain very discreet because narcissists are VERY POSSESSIVE and CAN become ANGRY and even VIOLENT if their "possession" moves on. If need be, be prepared to call 911 and/or get a restraining order if anything happens while you are dating. And KEEP your doors locked, no matter what. Treat your narcissist as like a delicate time bomb that is very unpredictable. DO NOT give him the benefit of the doubt FOR ANYTHING. The Narcissist will do WHATEVER it takes to hurt you and punish you for leaving the marriage, AND WILL DO THINGS YOU NEVER IMAGINED HE WAS CAPABLE OF!!
The audacity this Tyler supporter has to come on here and spew this garbage is incredible. My son is 3 days younger than Max. My husband was gone for 2 days last weekend, and the way my son reacted when he walked in made me sit and cry. He couldn't stop laughing, kissing/hugging him and wanted no one else. All I could think about was Max. He hasn't seen his Mom in 2 1/2 wks, and there won't be a reunion where he gets to kiss and hug on his mom that he loves so much...ever. He doesn't understand why she's "sleeping" now, but he'll have to endure that pain forever. His Dad created that, and you want to talk about crap like breastfeeding? If he chooses, Max can later speak with and hear his Dad. He can speak to his Mom, too...but will hear nothing. You don't GET to criticize Amy as a parent. Abuse doesn't always leave a bruise. When you use your child to inflict pain/anger, it's abuse. Your so-called arguement is ridiculous and not worth the time you took to type it.
AMEN Tricia.
To the Tyler supporter or if there is more than 1... Sometimes people really aren't the person you think they are. If you think that it's okay to be abusive to someone in any circumstance or use your child to get back at the child's mother then YOU also have serious problems and maybe you need counseling. And I feel sorry for your significant other if you have one.
Nobody is trying to justify what Tyler did. If he murdered her, he clearly was sick. Its a shame though that so many are quick to judge and be one sided. Both of these individuals had mental problems. I am not trying to be rude but Amy could have been in the same shoes as Tyler a couple of years before. God had mercy on her. People are quick to deny or try to hide these circumstances when things like this happen to family members or friends.
I don't know the circumstances behind their marriage, but I do know that marriage can be a struggle at times and those that say it can't are lying. Does God justify divorce? Only behind two exceptions; for those who committ adultry and those who are unequally yoked religiously. For anyone to separate from a marriage without divorce, begin another serious relationship and become pregnant within a year is troubling, but not an excuse to committ murder.
I feel sorry for Max to have to endure the rest of his life without either of his parents, I feel sorry for both families that grieve, but I refuse to look at this one-sided and I wont be the judge because any of us could find ourselves in situations like Tyler and Amy.
Life is delicate, tell your loved ones and friends that you love them everyday. Be supportive of them and let them know your concerned about them, but more importantly, talk to them about God.
Anyone who blames parents in this situation are truely selfish and clearly are not faithful to God. Both set of parents, family members, and friends are grieving.
To the past post, can you please explain how Amy could have been "in the same shoes a couple of years ago". God knows Amy never would have murdered another person in such a horrible way.
Im trying to direct my attention to this but honestly! I don't care about anyone on this blog! Why do I need to waist my time bloggin about something that creates an arguement. Im tired, Im destroyed, I can't beleive this happened. I don't know any of you. I know the people involved in the incident and the families involved. I've spoke with you directly. There is nothing good I can say. The topic is GOD REST HER SOUL and nobody has any respect to just do that. DAN lets open up another BLOG. one for arguing so I can unleash everything I have and one for respecting the death of Amy. I have alot of comments but im not doing it anymore. PS are your computers registered. If so, are you able and willing to testify.
THEN why are you blogging if u dont care??????
To the blogger who doesn't care...what do you think we are trying to do? We, her family and friends, want justice for Amy. We want to bring awareness to the situation and let people know who Amy really was...a kind, compassionate, and loving person whose life was ended by violence. She was a victim of domestic violence. She's not the person the White family has portrayed her to be...or that people on this blog have portrayed her to be. With regard to testifying, this is all heresay and none of these postings can be entered into evidence.
To anonymous who said that "if Tyler murdered her.." Are you kidding me? He admitted to being the shooter which means he MURDERED her. There is NO justification for murder no matter what you would like to believe. And no one is trying to cover up anything. Her family and friends are speaking out because we knew her better than anyone. Amy did not have mental problems. She was a victim of constant verbal and emotional abuse, which was WITNESSED by many of her friends. The one who is trying to cover up here is Tyler. If you want to believe his lies, you will have to live with that. And about the ridiculous divorce statements, if you think that a person should remain in a marriage in which they are enduring constant abuse, then your values are seriously messed up. It is because of so-called religious people like you and your interpretation of God's word that these tragic events occur. NO ONE should stay in an unhealthy marriage. I'm sorry that your views are so narrow-minded.
Amy was a fantastic person who had so much to give others. There WILL be justice for Amy...we firmly believe that. May peace and love be felt by all of Amy's friends and family during this time, especially little Maxy.
I do believe that God does forgive even the worst of sinners. However, one must be truly sorry for their sin and ask for forgiveness. Only God knows ones soul, but as long as Tyler continues with his lies and lack of remorse, I whole-heartedly believe that his soul will burn in hell for all eternity.
Peace be with you, Amy, in heaven with God!
OK seriously - the Tyler defender is demented and he/she needs help! Don't preach to me or anyone about our relationship with God. Amy talked OPENLY about her relationship with GOD to all her friends and family...and GOT KICKED out of the LIFE CHURCH...her church that she has been going to for over 7 years. This church is in Bluffton if some people do not know this. The pastor called her a few days before she was murdered and told her she was NO longer welcome in the church. What preacher does that?? Where's the love and compassion in the Wells Co community. I see none. I do see a lot of judgemental people who think they are better than everyone else. It all started when Kenny White called the preacher and told him that Amy was going to church with her boyfriend and for some reason the preacher listened to him and called Amy. Amy was SOOO upset by this. Who does Kenny White and the entire White family think they are. I'm sorry but Kenny White is demented as much as his son. No wonder Tyler is a narcissist. Kenny tried to get Amy fired from coaching too and called the Athletic Director at Bluffton. Too bad for Kenneth that the AD and coaches loved AMY!. What human being does that? Can you not let go the fact that AMY was leaving her ABUSIVE husband because she wanted to be LOVED unconditionally. Let it go.
Oh and please ellaborate on how Amy would have been in the same shoes a few years before. Are you kidding me? Seriously, you need to stop saying that this could happen to anyone. THIS DOES NOT just happen to anyone. This is not normal. Quit making exuses for Tyler & his family. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. There is no excuse for what he has done. Amy would have NEVER even thought of this demented act and you need to realize that.
Tyler will burn in hell unless HE ADMITS to what he did and asks for forgiveness but knowing him he never will. Fess up to what you did and had planned.
I'm going to comment on Tyler shaving his son's head down to the scalp. I have seen the picture of this and whoever thinks this was cute (aka Tyler's family) is demented. First of all, to use your son to get back at his mother is sick. If you don't know the reason behind why Tyler did this - then don't comment on it. IT IS CHILD ABUSE.
All I have to say is why did Tyler call 911 twice?? Oh yeah and they were 54 seconds apart? Thats right 54 seconds apart. Because he had to plot the self defense. For Gosh sake Amy had every right to move on. What the heck was she suppose to do continue to be unhappy and fight in court months after months. Tyler supporter, do you have any idea how long a custody battle can go on?? Years and years. Is that fair to either parties? And espically for Max. Tyler's family still can talk to Tyler, they still can see him smile, can Amy's family talk to her, or see her smile? NO! A change of venue will be comming soon. So Amy supporters just be patient. And Max hang in there big guy!
I am not afraid to say who I am. My brother was engaged to Amy a few years back. Unfortunately, i didnt get the pleasure of knowing Amy like others did. Amy was ALWAYS very nice to me whenever i ran into her. I think that speaks volumes of her character, personality and who she really is. One of my other brothers was very close friends with Amy. I am very sad for his loss.
It makes me SICK TO MY STOMACH to hear of people supporting Tyler White. Who the hell do you think you are? Murder supporters I guess. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. MAX, that sweet little boy should be with the people that love him the MOST- the MEYER FAMILY. That is the very "least" that can be done in this situation to honor the memory of Amy Meyer. Rest in Peace, Amy.
AMY shaved MAX's head. Cute pic tho!!
Message deleted because I found it distasteful. Please don't write such things about those who are no longer here to defend themselves. If I could give both families peace, I would, but peace is a long way off for everyone involved except Amy, so please, let her be.
Tyler can't defend himself on ur lame blog any better than she can why u so afraid of the truth
"Tyler can't defend himself on ur lame blog any better than she can why u so afraid of the truth"
Let's hope the truth comes out in court. You're wrong, though, to compare Tyler's ability to defend himself to someone he killed. The jury will decide who to believe based on the evidence presented at the trial. Tyler can speak, then. e can speak now. He can say whatever he wants and it will be public record.
Amy has no voice. You can say what you want in your own venue. Start your own web site, write your own letter to the editor. But here I'll remove anything I find offensive.
What is there to Defend? Tyler murdered Amy that is pretty hard to defend if you ask me. I guess if it makes certain people feel better to come up with excuses for Tyler's behavior and having committed murder rather than accept the truth then that is their prerogative. But continuing to believe Tyler's lies is helping no one. Look where we are now because certain people wanted to turn a blind eye to what Tyler was doing while Amy was alive. Maybe if people would stop defending him we wouldn't be where we are today.
Hey Anonymous Tyler defenders. How come none of you can same your name? Maybe it's because your ashamed of yourself for defending a murderer.
Why would Tyler shoot Amy's cell phone and blow it to pieces if it was self defense? Seriously can any of you Tyler supporters please answer that question?
This is a little education lesson for all of you ignorant Tyler supporters who have believed his lies for far too long. Turning a blind eye to abuse or making excuses for the perpetrator is fundamentally wrong.
When does conflict turn into abuse?
CONTEXT is EVERYTHING!-intent of the perpetrator, meaning to the victim, and effect on the victim. By shaving Max's hair into a mohawk, Tyler knew it would hurt Amy; therefore, the INTENT was to cause harm. And to the anonymous poster, Amy did NOT shave Max's hair, contrary to what you may think. It was the day of her sister's wedding and Amy wanted Max in the photos. Tyler refused to allow Max to go, until attorneys intervened. Tyler was furious at Amy and so he did it to get back at her...so Max would have a mohawk in the wedding photos.
Tyler's constant verbal and emotional abuse had a negative effect on Amy, which is ABUSE and not conflict.
And something else for everyone to ponder.
Why is domestic violence relevant in custody disputes?
1)Abuse does NOT end with separation.
2)Child's exposure to inappropriate role model.
3)Undermining of non-abusive parent.
4)Perpetual litigation as form of on-going control (and Amy's death did not end this...it is STILL going on because of the Whites)
5)In extreme cases-homicide
Think long and hard about this and wonder how you contributed to this tragic situation. But more importantly, think about how you can end this so peace and justice can finally be a reality for the Meyer family.
To the anonymous person who said Tyler can't defend himself on this lame blog anymore than Amy can...
I can't believe you even wrote that first of all. Second of all do you have any compassion & sympathy at all for Amy or her friends & family? I was Amy's friend. I can't talk to her anymore. I can't laugh with her anymore. I can't see her smiling face anymore. Think of that. I guess if you are defending Tyler or actually believe his story then this means nothing to you because you have no heart. Your comment sounded like something Tyler would say...it's so far off and irrational. Were you his accomplice in all of this? Sure makes me wonder.
And for the record Tyler already gave his story - HE WAS ABLE TO SPEAK after he murdered Amy. He told police he shot her in self defense because Amy pulled a gun on him first. That's his defense. I know it's not the truth but he is still alive to speak. Amy has no voice. And now Tyler's friends and family are making matters worse by defending/supporting him. There comes a time where you have to stop. Tyler has caused enough damage.
Lets focus on the positives and joy amy brought to so many lives. Was a friend of both, It does nothing to rant, but cause more anger. Lets focus on the happiness Amy had, and the accomplishes she had. She was so many great things. and brought so much laughter to so many lives. And pray for both families, as all close friends and family are going through a rough time. Some jump to the conclusion that he is a liar and it was not self defense and some believe his story and say it was. No one was there, no one knows. The jury will decide, but that still won't make it the truth. Don't focus on the details you hear or think are true. Just have to sit and wait it out. Until then, I'm sure Amy would be happy for everyone to remember the good about her, and her husband, and stop focusing all your energy on the negative towards either one. all the friends and families are in my thoughts and prayers.
Please don't refer to him as her husband. While he may still have been legally, he sure wasn't in any other way. Amy would be disgusted to hear you refer to the man that killed her as her husband.
In regard to the Nov 18, 10:22 am post: Your post is very typical of those who do not know anything about the way Tyler was behaving for the past year and a half. He was saying and doing very, very disturbing things. In retrospect, we all wish Amy had taken legal action to stop his behavior. You can tell when someone posts on this blog and either has no idea this abuse was occurring or are still turning a blind eye to it. This is not about a typical couple who had typical problems. Amy was in a very dangerous situation - just look at the outcome! For anyone to suggest otherwise doesn't know what went on! For you to say "Some jump to the conclusion that he is a liar and it was not self defense and some believe his story and say it was. No one was there, no one knows." The people close to Amy know. We know that she never had a gun - that she would never put her child in that dangerous situation and that Tyler was the one doing many abusive things leading up to her murder. Aside from Tyler's abuse and hurtful court delaying tactics, Amy was happy and looking forward to the next phase of her life. People in that state of mind don't have a motive to kill. No one with any intelligence believes Tyler's story! People who believe it are in denial. Yes, ultimately the court will decide the verdict but that doesn't mean we have to ignore the facts leading up to it - i.e. Tyler's sick behavior. Or that we can't look at each other and say - why would Tyler shoot Amy's cell phone to pieces at the scene of the crime if it was self defense? Because she had many, many recordings of his verbal abuse and was about to present it in court the day after the murder! All of this and yet still some people choose to believe that Tyler shot in self defense. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Every time you refer to the murder being in self defense, you're wounding Amy over and over again. The way to honor Amy's memory is to acknowledge that she was the victim of domestic abuse. That's the story that needs to be told. Amy isn't served by the passive-aggressive posts on this site that say we should support both of them. Murder is the action of ONE.
Bravo 2:07pm!! 10:22am, you say that you were a friend to both. I was Amy's friend, but not her BEST friend. Yet everytime I think of her and something hysterical that she had done or said, it breaks my heart. While I cherish her memory, I am bursting at the seems with rage at what happened to her, and the complete injustice that has been occuring since her passing. How do you call yourself her friend, and yet disregard the manor in which she perished? How can you be her friend and not have even the slightest ounce of anger?
While Tyler is the only one who can really "say" what happened, I can't wait until the trial. Then you will all see what he was putting Amy through, the evidence of how he basically executed her and the MONSTER that he is.
Seriously there are still people out there that may believe Tyler? Are you kidding me?
And we are honoring Amy and we are remembering her for who she was - a sweet, funny, caring and wonderful mommy and friend...AND we are also here to pray for justice to be served and make people aware of the abusive relationship Amy was in so it could maybe help save a life. And all you so called mutual friends or Tyler defenders need to realize that Amy was brutally murdered. I knew the murderer too and what he did to Amy this past year and half is unheard of (and it started long before then) and for you to sit there and even THINK for a second that Amy brought a gun there that day...then you are obviously blinded by Tyler's persona and you need help.
And for you to say we "jump" to the conclusion that Tyler is a liar is absurd. We don't "jump" to anything. We whole heartedly KNOW that Tyler is a cold blooded murderer, liar & a sick human being... and we are HERE to speak out for Amy because she can't. No, we will never know what happened that morning but everyday the thought of Amy's last 20 minutes of life just kill me. I am sure Tyler degraded & called her horrible names right down to the second he shot her so the next time you think of defending him - you think of Amy's last 20 minutes of her life. How scared she must have been. The look in her eyes.
And I will pray for Tyler - that he can somehow get the courage to admit what he did and show some remorse. And I will also pray for all you so called mutual friends and Tyler defenders that you may realize (with the help of God) what a horrible monster Tyler really is.
And most importantly I will continue to pray for Amy's family, friends and her beautiful son Max.
And may justice be served. We love and miss you Amy! You were the funniest and most amazing person I have ever known! Rest in Peace!
It is not possible to be a friend of Amy AND a friend of Tyler. If you would have seen and heard the terrible things he did to her and said to her, you would be ashamed to call him a human being let alone a friend.
As the friends and family of Amy, we ARE remembering the wonderful memories we have with her, but what upsets us the most is that we no longer have the opportunity to make new memories with her. Tyler took her from us. Have you not thought about the future that Amy was going to have??? She was building a wonderful new life for herself AWAY FROM TYLER. She had a partner who saw her as a person and not a posession and loved her deeply. She was going to be blessed with TWO beautiful sons. She had a brilliant career ahead of her. She had and was going to touch the lives of so many people in a positive way. Do you still not see why we are so angry???
As for thinking about the good qualities of Tyler, I hope you have a nanosecond to spare because that's all the time it would take. The only good thing he did was to play a small role in Max's conception. Amy would be disgusted by your comment.
WELL SAID AMY!!
To all of Amy's friends and famliy who are writing and reading this message board:
It is very obvious what kind of person Amy was by the amazing things you say on this board. She was a beautiful soul inside and out and there are no words that describe the sadness of this trajedy. I pray daily for her, Max, and Lee. I can't imagine losing my fiance the way that Lee has. He and Max have lost their world. They have lost their future. They have lost their everything. And what breaks my heart the most is that it wasn't because of an illness, or an accident. It was because this sick sick sick man couldn't handle it. I met Amy this past summer, but have known Lee for many years. I think that you can judge how a person really is after spending a week with them, and she was a wonderful mother, girlfriend, and person.
I can only hope that one day a mother and father can sleep through the night without crying themselves to sleep over their daughters death. Friends can smile and laugh rather than cry when they think of her. A boyfriend can begin to heal and instead of taking each moment as it comes, start living life again. ANd my biggest hope of all is that a little boy learns who is mother truly is, and can hear stories of her by all of you whom were her friends. Because the biggest trajedy is a child never hearing their mother say I love you, never getting a hug goodnight after a bad dream, or a kiss when you fall. I hope that all of Amy's friends and family can do that in her memory and honor.
Well said. Well written.
Meyer - I think about you everyday! I miss you!
Where did Tyler work? And why do people think he was embezzling?
He worked at Farm Bureau in Bluffton.
Because HE GOT FIRED for fraud and embezzling the day before he murdered Amy.
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